Part of an effective solution, he emphasized, is obtaining the help of those "many students who do not bully, but who get
a buzz out of watching someone else do it," and especially obtaining the help of youngsters who don't like it and who could
serve as natural leaders. Indeed, in his efforts to reduce bullying in schools, he attempts to recruit such bystanders to
help in dispute mediation between the bully and bullying victim, and more often than not they are happy to assist, he said.