For example, one audience member said that she had tried to get addiction counselors to adapt a new evidence-based treatment, but had not succeeded because the counselors were so overwhelmed with other concerns, such as a lack of space, too few physicians, and inadequate funding levels. "Maybe you could help them with these concerns and thereby build an alliance with them," Perl suggested. "And after that, maybe they would be open to adopting the new treatment that you are promoting."